Node color settings not recalled in config screen


Something which could likely be improved quite easily.....

When you configure colour handling for a node, the application never shows the previously applied settings in the config window. What you actually see is the last settings you defined since starting the software.

So for example if you have previously set the color handling of a node to RGB, then you don't see this selected when you go back to look at the color handling settings.

That all said, the color settings work fine, so it's more an improvement to the UI.

Same applies to dimming curves, it would be useful to review the curves which have been previously applied.


January 4, 2021, 5:57 PM

Wow, thanks for taking the time to write the super-detailed comments. I had never realised you can actually click on the filters in graphical view to view the properties (must have overlooked that). Yes that certainly gives me what I (hopefully representing others!) need!

I understand now why it works how it does - i.e. can be used to change multiple items.

The graphical view is great, I often use it to validate how things are patched. You're right that it can get bogged down if there are a large number of nodes / patch points. Maybe the number of items needs to be limited, perhaps based on the performance available from the particular PC. Sometimes I have accidentally opened a large number of items and ended up force-quitting the application to get going again.

Feel free to close this comment / feature suggestion if you wish.

Jeff Uchitjil
January 4, 2021, 2:16 PM

There are a couple aspects going on here. The Color Handling setup you are using is a wizard to set that up. It is not intended to verify the results. You can select any number of varying elements to use the wizard on and those underlying elements may have many different color setups that you want to make consistent. So even if it showed what the first element was, there could be many other elements that are different and thus it will not be representative. This is why it just defaults to the last used.

To actually verify what elements are set to, there are a couple approaches you can use.

1. The color setup for an element is a property applied to the element. You can select the element in the tree. This will be an item with one of the balls next to it. If it has color associated with it, there will be a Color entry in the properties box below the element tree. If you double click the Color entry, or select it and use the Gear icon below that box, the color dialog will appear. This will show what the color is set to and also allow you to change it. This is about what color the element is, not how it is necessarily handled in the patching chain.

2. Color breakdown. This determines the patch points and how color is distributed in the patching flow. You can see this in the graphical view. Select the element(s) you wish to view. It is best to keep these to a small number as the graphical view can get very busy. Here you will see how the patching path is configured. If you also used the spreadsheet looking icon under the element tree to select the controller patch points you will see the entire flow path of your element(s). Here you will see a color breakdown and possibly a dimming curve icons. You can double click on either to see how they are configured. The color breakdown will bring up a dialog showing the colors it responds to and allow you to edit them. You can set the colors independently or use the templates. The color handling wizard does this and the color step for you and hides most of this away.

3. Dimming Curve. Using the same method in step 2 above you can double click on the Dimming Curve graphic and you will be presented with the curve editor. You can view or edit the curve here. The Dimming Curve Wizard builds this out as well.

Hopefully this gives you a better understanding of how things are designed to work. Could we build something that can help you visualize what the setup is that is better than the graphical view? Maybe. The graphical view is pretty powerful, but it has its limits when trying to look at things in bulk. Maybe we need something that can test a group of elements and report that they are all this color or have this breakdown or dimming. If there are differences in some, maybe it could group them and show x number are this way and y number are this other way. Food for thought.

Anyway, let me know if this helps.

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